Compost

Compost

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When we moved into our home 3 years ago, we built a 3 bay compost bin and have slowly built up each bay with garden and kitchen refuse and shredded paper. Have just spent the last few days digging out the 1st bay which is full of fantastic three year old compost. This is being spread over all the borders and veg beds.
Posted: Sunday 22nd of February 2009 11:07 AM
  • Hi Wendy, It's almost magical, isn't it? I was so excited the first time I did that too. I love the whole circle of life thing, adding nutrients back to the garden with no carbon footprint either. Many people think there is lots to know about composting but even if you just throw things in with no regard, you will still get compost eventually, it's nature at work. I got the result of my first attempt at leaf mould this year and that is even easier! All the best, Marissa
    Replied: Sunday 22nd of February 2009 01:42 PM
  • Compost

    Georgie
    Well done Wendy. Making compost is so satisfying isn't it? I only have room for one bin in my garden but it provides enough for my needs. And like Melissa says, don't forget the leaf mould. I just fill black sacks with wet deciduous leaves and then leave them for a year or so behind the shed. Easy peasy!

    Georgie
    Replied: Sunday 22nd of February 2009 02:48 PM
  • Compost

    Shoot User
    Thanks girls - I've got leafmould cages on the go - fantastic!
    Replied: Monday 23rd of February 2009 09:59 AM
    • Compost

      Shoot User
      I've been composting for a couple of years now.

      I've read so many things about people having problems with runny, mushy or smelly compost, but I haven't had any problems at all. I haven't done anything special either. I just make sure that I don't put all the grass cuttings in in one go, and add my veg peelings and paper and it turns out lovely and crumbly and not smelly in the least.

      Jo.
      Replied: Tuesday 24th of February 2009 05:04 PM
      • compost advice

        liz hankins
        Could one of you experienced composters tell me what is best to place the compost bin on? I have heard it is best straight onto the ground so worms etc can get in but the what about rats nesting in it?

        I have a large garden but am end of terrace and don't want to cause my neighbours any worry about rodents!

        Thanks - Liz
        Replied: Thursday 2nd of April 2009 09:58 PM
        • Compost advice

          Shoot User
          Hi Liz, I have had no problems with putting the bin straight onto the ground. Try sprinkling Garrota onto dampened fresh compost - this may deter rats as it helps speed up the decomposition.

          Good luck.
          Wendy
          Replied: Friday 3rd of April 2009 12:18 PM
          • Compost advice

            Georgie
            Hi Liz

            Never put anything cooked (even veg) in your compost nor any meat, fish or dairy products. And if you keep you compost well mixed and not too dry then rodents are unlikely to be attracted to it. Hope this helps.

            Georgie
            Replied: Friday 3rd of April 2009 05:51 PM
        • Compost Bin

          Shoot User
          Hi Liz,

          I have one of the black 'darlek' type bins. The one I bought comes with a bottom to it. The bottom is full of small holes, and it obviously allows worms to get in to the bin as my compost is always full of worms, but it obviously prevents any unwelcome visitors.

          Jo.
          Replied: Friday 3rd of April 2009 05:54 PM
          • Composting advice

            liz hankins
            Thank you so much all of you! I knew about not putting in cooked food and am veggie so won't be putting in meat anyway- but didn't know about dairy.That doesn't include boiled egg shells does it?

            Another question....I was wondering whether you find the plastic "dalek" type bin difficult to turn the compost in? The opening at the bottoms of those always looks so small. I used to help in an organic garden project in London and they had built wooden boxes for compost and just turned it all out onto a sheet to turn it.

            Is the anti-rodent product you mention organic? I don't want chemicals in my compost.

            Can't wait to start!
            Liz
            Replied: Friday 3rd of April 2009 06:15 PM
            • Emptying a Dalek

              Shoot User
              Hi Liz,

              Yes, you can add egg shells to the compost.

              The compost does come out quite easily from the small opening at the bottom of the bin. To demonstrate this you can take a look at Georgie's blog (hope you don't mind Georgie) where her latest post is about composting:-
              http://littlelondongarden.blogspot.com/

              Jo.
              Replied: Friday 3rd of April 2009 07:42 PM
              • Of course I don't mind...

                Georgie
                ...all publicity is good publicity as the old adage goes, Jo. :D

                Liz, I agree with Jo that egg shells are fine (but they take years to break down). As for turning the compost, yes, it's not that easy but I manage it okay from the top with the lid off and using a garden fork. That said I've seen a 'compost aerator' advertised which looks tempting. It's basically a long handled metal rod with two hinged prongs. As you drive it into the compost the prongs are closed but as you lift it they open out. I'm not sure if I'm explaining this very well but I'd be interested to know if anyone has used one and how they rate it.

                Georgie
                Replied: Friday 3rd of April 2009 08:04 PM
                • Composting advice

                  liz hankins
                  Hi Georgie & Jo

                  Thank you for your help again. I have tried the snail deterrent broken egg shell thing around plants and it didn't work for me...not sure if I dried them out first so maybe that's where I went wrong...but yes, I have also heard of the aerator and since I am yet to buy my compost bin maybe I'll enquire.
                  It seems wrong to me to spend much on composting though- I like the feel of recycling and the circle of life - and all for free! I had planed to build my own wooden compost bins but I've got two fences to mend and my wild flowers to plant (my next questions will be about that!) and I'm opting for the quick solution now.

                  I've looked at your blog Georgie- its wonderful! I don't know how you find time but I'm glad you do! Its good of you to share your knowledge. I am limited to gardening in the evenings after work, so it'll be years before I know as much as you

                  Liz
                  Replied: Monday 6th of April 2009 05:27 PM
                  • Circle of life

                    Georgie
                    Hi Liz

                    You are clearly a woman after my own heart. I went chemical free/gardening for wildlife a few years ago and it's amazing how quickly the garden gets the right eco balance. I prefer to leave things to nature and only dispose of things that are troublesome with no natural predators such as Lily Beetles, slugs and snails if they get out of hand and aphids if they are seriously threatening my my crops. Eggshells don't work for me either, nor do copper tape or coffee grounds. In my experience beer traps and picking them off at dusk are by far the most effective methods if you have an infestation.

                    Thanks for your kind comments about my blog. It doesn't take very long really and I'm hoping it'll be useful to look back on as a garden record to see what does well, what doesn't work and to compare flowering times etc. Oh and by the way I'm quite new to gardening but by joining sites like this you can pick up things up really quickly. :)

                    Georgie
                    Replied: Monday 6th of April 2009 08:11 PM
                • Re: Rating compost turners

                  Carol
                  Hi, I haven't used one like you describe, but we have one like a giant corkscrew (well a spiral of metal wire - very stiff) that you screw down into the compost as far as you can and then lift to pull the stuff from the bottom up to the top. We use that in our three green dalek bins and the batch wormery. And we have a three layer can o worms wormery that does most of the vegetable scraps from the kitchen and some cardboard.
                  Replied: Friday 28th of May 2010 03:08 PM
            • Composting advice

              Shoot User
              Hi Liz
              The composting product is called Garotta by Arthur Bowes but don't know if its organic. I put egg shells in my compost as well however, another use for them is to collect uncooked egg shells in a box then when they've dried out, crunch them into tiny bits and sprinkle them round plants as an anti-slug/snail deterant. They don't like crawling over the sharp shell fragments. I also put used tea bags onto the compost heap.

              Good luck. Wendy
              Replied: Monday 6th of April 2009 10:20 AM
              • Composting advice

                liz hankins
                Thanks Wendy. I will get Garotta if its organic. See my comment above about egg shells- I will dry them out and try again- and the beer trap too- anything is better than losing to our little slimey friends (2 large organic Courgette plants last year).

                Is it OK to position my compost bin in shade amidst trees? I want to hide it out of sight but am wondering whether it will be too cool and damp?

                Liz
                Replied: Friday 10th of April 2009 01:26 PM
          • slugs in my compost

            liz hankins
            Its me again- I now have a dalek style compost bin too and placed it on the ground under some trees where it gets sun late afternoon for a few hours.

            My garden is plagued with slugs who have devoured everything I plant (I'll save that for another post!) and there are HUGE slugs in my compost bin. I know worms are good but won't slugs just eat all the rotting veg etc and ruin my compost?

            I find it very hard to turn the compost too- leaning into the top with a fork. Especially with so many slugs clinging to the sides to avoid!

            Liz
            Replied: Tuesday 11th of August 2009 03:41 PM
            • Nothing to worry about

              Georgie
              Hi Liz

              Those huge slugs in your compost bin will be helping with the composting process and are nothing to worry about you'll be pleased to hear.

              If you cannot turn the compost then the best thing to do is to add materials in layers, roughly 2:1 brown:green materials up to the top of the bin and leave it be. It will compost down in time.

              There's lots more about this on various websites but I would recommend Garden Organic.

              Georgie
              Replied: Tuesday 11th of August 2009 06:48 PM
              • slugs and compost

                liz hankins
                Thanks Georgie
                I've just watched the Garden Organic video on composting-very useful. I definitely need to add more browns as have flies in my bin too.

                Yes it us a relief to hear that slugs are OK although I shall have to be careful not to put them on my garden with the compost!
                My garden is over run with slugs- maybe because its got a lot of trees around the edges and clay soil so is damp. Perhaps the compost bin will become a big slug trap like a massive grapefruit!

                Liz
                Replied: Wednesday 12th of August 2009 01:36 PM
                • Slugs get a bad press

                  Georgie
                  Hi Liz

                  Lots of people view slugs as a menace in the garden when in fact some of them eat other slugs and some (as you have found) help with the composting process. The worst ones are the keeled slugs which live underground and eat our tender crops. But don't get me started on snails!

                  I wouldn't worrry about putting the slugs from your compost bin on the garden - they'll have long since gone.

                  Georgie
                  Replied: Saturday 15th of August 2009 08:39 PM
                  • Slug eggs in compost?

                    liz hankins
                    Hi Georgie
                    I have been thinking about the slugs in my compost bin and am still wondering why its not a problem- surely their eggs will be all through the compost even if the adults have gone?
                    Its just that I have SO MANY! And they are those huge orange ones too....
                    Liz
                    Replied: Thursday 10th of September 2009 03:15 PM
                    • Slug eggs in compost?

                      Georgie
                      Hi Liz

                      I am neither a botanist nor a biologist but I will try once again to reassure you with logic. The slugs in your compost will be the ones that prefer to eat decaying matter as opposed to tender young plants. It follows that their offspring (the eggs) will prefer a similar diet. Does that help?

                      Georgie
                      Replied: Thursday 10th of September 2009 08:50 PM
                      • slug eggs in compost

                        liz hankins
                        Hi Georgie
                        OK! You've set my mind at rest - I look forward to using my first compost sometime next spring then!
                        Liz

                        ( I wonder what the slugs in my compost were eating before my bin arrived then...)
                        Replied: Friday 11th of September 2009 03:31 PM
                        • What they were eating before

                          Georgie
                          LOL Liz you are a worrier! :D If you go in the garden after it's rained you often see the big orange slugs around and if you look closely they are eating old and decaying stuff lying around the garden. Try dropping a fresh leaf of something in their path and my guess is that they will ignore it in favour of their preferred diet.

                          Georgie
                          Replied: Friday 11th of September 2009 07:39 PM
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